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Reform History Awards Students for Genocide Denial

Reform History Research Center and Ataturk Principles, based at Turkey’s Gazi University, have awarded several Turkish students for participating in a contest denying the Armenian Genocide, writes the Turkish Daily News.

Armenian issue discussed in students’ research papers

Thursday, November 1, 2007

ANKARA – Turkish Daily News

  The research paper of a university student who rejects the claims that the 1915-1917 killings of Armenians by the Ottomans are ”genocide” won an essay competition titled “Psychology, Sociology and the legal aspects of the Armenian issue: Reflections on societies and the measures to be taken,” organized by Gazi University.

   The award ceremony took place yesterday at Gazi University and the students of the winning essays were presented with their awards. The ceremony was organized by Gazi University’s Atatürk Principles and Reform History Research Center. Present at the ceremony were Meral Akşener, deputy speaker of Parliament, Onur Öymen the Republican People’s Party’s (CHP) deputy, Gazi University rector, Professor Kadri Yamaç and Professor Hale Şıvgın from the center. 

  The jury consisting of eight academics selected Mustafa Arıkan’s paper as the winning one. Arıkan is a history graduate student and in his article is titled “A Small Side Note to the Armenian Issue.” In it he says that the forced resettlement of the Armenians in 1915 was a necessity for the Ottoman Empire, setting his in-depth archival work as basis for his paper.

  “Because, in cooperation with the enemy, Armenians were killing the Muslims behind the scene. Forced resettlement, in this sense, was a kind of ‘self-defense’,” he said. “The amount Armenians who were subject to resettlement or the issue of how many died aren’t a matter of question. Because, the governors of the period were judged in Malta just after the World War I for the issue on forced resettlement of the Armenians but they were acquitted.”

  Arıkan also drew attention to the fact that archives indicated no evidence marking the Armenian genocide. “The mass graves which are expected to be found because of the supposed genocide haven’t been found despite all the intensive work. Hence, there is no ‘real’ evidence which supports the Armenian allegations except for the books published for publicity purposes during the war,” he said in his paper.

  Arıkan added that history exists in order to provide information and offer experience for humanity but it is used as an ideological apparatus today. “The Armenian issue, which came on the agenda for the political weakness of Turks, could solely be solved by being powerful in the political and (of course economical and military) sense,” he concluded.

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House Panel Labels WWII Killing of Jews “Genocide”

via Jewcy.com

Foreign relations Committee calls WWII Killing of Jews “Genocide”

September 24, 2022,
Los Angeles, CA
Aris Janigian—staff writer

On Wednesday, September 23, The House Foreign Affairs Committee voted 27 to 21 to condemn as genocide the mass killings of Jews in Germany during World War II. New Germany reacted angrily, recalling its ambassador from Washington and threatening to withdraw its support for the continuing War on Terror.

“America has crossed a line with this resolution,” Foreign Minister Helmut Gottschalk said. “Petty domestic politics has trumped American national interests. The New German people can only take so much insult. We will see our next steps.”

It was a harsh rebuke from one of America’s closest allies, and sent shock waves through the White House. The resolution comes at a time when the United States is actively drumming up support for the War on Terror, and two deputies in the State Department departed for Berlin immediately after the vote in an attempt to forestall a diplomatic disaster. At home, Secretary of State Candid Price called the resolutionStill Waiting for Recognition: For the few remaining survivors of the Jewish tragedy, this year's resolution may be the last chanceStill Waiting for Recognition: For the few remaining survivors of the Jewish tragedy, this year’s resolution may be the last chance “irresponsible.”

In a Rose Garden press conference President Hernandez acknowledged the Jewish tragedy, but sternly warned against the resolution. “This is not the right time or the right place for this kind of resolution,” Hernandez said.

Jews, along with the large majority of historians outside New Germany, say that from 1939 to 1945 the German Nationalist Socialist Party carried out a systematic campaign to kill as many as six million Jews in Europe. They claim the killings amounted to “genocide,” a term that the New German government fiercely rejects.

New Germany acknowledges that between 1 and 1.6 million Jews died during the war, but contends that a vast majority of those deaths occurred in the throes of war when disease and starvation was widespread. According to New Germany the intent to exterminate Jews is historically unfounded. “There was a context for these events. Many Germans died and suffered as well, far exceeding the number of Jews. These were the sad unintended consequences of war.”

Since the establishment of New Germany, the influential Jewish American lobby has sought acknowledgment of their ancestors’ suffering. The authors of the resolution are from heavily Jewish districts in California and Florida and New York. They note that the United States must recognize the Jewish tragedy while the few remaining survivors are still alive.

Chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee Gregory Demerdjian, a descendent of survivors of the Armenian Genocide, said, “These events must be characterized for what they were: genocide. It is well documented in our own national archives that genocide of Jews occurred during the Second World War. This is merely an acknowledgment of America’s own understanding of the events during that time. None of this should be construed to mean that New Germany is in the least responsible for these deaths.” Demerjian said that he would soon introduce a resolution reinforcing America’s strong and lasting relationship with the New Germany.

The Jewish tragedy is a sensitive issue in New Germany. Under a progressive movement called “Identity Reformation,” the New Germans have radically reconsidered what an older generation had taken for granted. Historians in New Germany argue that between the First and Second World War Germany was caught between JewishTaking Pride in Our Past: The New German government has insisted that the alleged genocide is simply not consistent with the nobility of German historyTaking Pride in Our Past: The New German government has insisted that the alleged genocide is simply not consistent with the nobility of German history industrialists and Jewish socialists intent on overthrowing the German state. “They wanted to destroy the country from within,” said New German Ambassador Norbert Sommer. “It was a difficult time. Everyone regrets the death of Jews, but wartime choices had to be made to save Germany’s very existence.”

Today, New Germany rejects the verdicts of the Nuremberg Trials that found members of the Nazi party guilty of war crimes, pointing out that Germans admitted to those crimes under duress from the prosecuting Allies. “No document has ever been produced that shows that Hitler ordered the extermination of Jews,” Sommer said. “Indeed, many attempts were made by Germans at the time to find a safe harbor for Jews, including some negotiations with Zionists in Europe. It is a total fallacy that there was anything resembling genocide.”


 

Members of the House committee who voted against the resolution characterized it as unwarranted “meddling” in a foreign state’s accounting of its own past. Representative Stefan Kohler said, “Maybe it was a genocide, maybe it wasn’t. None of us here are historians. This was 92 years ago. All I know is that passage of the bill would cause real-time harm to real people.”

Democratic Representative Richard Wechsler had stronger words: “You’d think with the War on Terror ongoing and all, the congress would find something better to do than rummage through the trash bin of history. What congress should be acknowledging is that when the rest of Europe has turned its back on America, New Germany has stood strong by our side.”

After WWII, America provided Old Germany with massive economic support under the Marshall plan. Old Germany remained a strong ally of the United States, and in 2112 it began an accelerated militarization program. Virtually one-third of New Germany’s GDP is devoted to military expenditure.

Since 2017, when President Harold Jones stepped up the War on Terror, America’s relationship to the European Union has been severely strained. Germany is one of the only European countries with which the United States has strong diplomatic and military ties.

Under penal code 3001, a number of writers have been prosecuted and convicted for “insulting Germanness” after using the term “genocide” or “holocaust ” to refer to the Jewish tragedy. In 2020, New German dissidents attempted to organize an academic conference in order to revisit the events of 1939-45 from a “Jewish perspective.” The conference was cancelled when then-Foreign-Minister Helmut Gottschalk called the organizers “traitors.”

Some Parliamentarians of the European Union, of which New Germany remains a nominal member, have argued that Germany should be censured for its view towards the Jewish tragedy. Other countries have decided to stay neutral, sharing the position of the United States that the events of that time should be left to historians to sort out.

“Let bygones by bygones,” said Roland Young, Secretary of Defense. “In a time of war, the United States has precious few allies. We respect history, but the life of our society depends upon our strategic position vis-à-vis our enemies today.”

Some Jews in New Germany say the house resolution would be counter-productive. Chief Rabbi of Munich Abraham Grynszpan said, “New Germany must come to terms with its own history. We resist pressure from foreign countries to set a timetable.” Members of the Jewish community in America believe that German-Jews are defending their dwindling numbers inside Germany, and yet others believe that the existence of Israel is in peril should they speak out.

New Germany has no diplomatic ties with Israel, and has repeatedly called on Israel to renounce its “genocide” claims. Its satellite state of New Lebanon has closed its borders with Israel.

Last year, some diplomats perceived a softening in the New German stance when it called on Israel to establish a joint commission to study the wartime atrocities, but that perception has since been altered. In January of this year Herschel Mintz, the ethnic Jewish editor-in-chief of the New German daily Agon was murdered in the streets of Berlin for attention he drew to the Jewish tragedies. The accused murderer, a 17-year-old German, is currently on trial for the crime, but human rights groups believe that the New German Deep Police were accomplices to the murder, and prosecutors claim that evidence was been destroyed.

In 2021, New German novelist Otwin Polk was awarded the Nobel Prize in Literature. In an explosive interview with an Italian newspaper, he said “In New Germany today, nobody but me speaks of the killing of over six million Jews.” Today Polk lives in exile.

US President Bush Denies the Holocaust

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Bush denies Armenian genocide
Fri, 05 Oct 2007 22:33:05

US President,George W. Bush

US President has opposed moves to term the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Armenians during the Ottoman Empire as ‘genocide’.

A US House resolution would ask the president to declare the killings of as many as 1.5 million Armenians nine decades ago a genocide.

In a statement, White House spokesman Gordon Johndroe said ” Bush has reiterated his opposition to this resolution,” adding that “the president has described the events as one of the tragedies of the 20th century, but believes the determination of whether or not the events constitute a genocide should be a matter for historical inquiry, not legislation.”

Turkey denies that a systematic slaughter of Armenians took place, saying Armenians and Turks alike were killed in ethnic clashes between 1915 and 1923 after Armenian groups sided with Russia in World War I.

Turkey as a key regional ally for the United States has warned that the passing of the draft would have defective consequences for the two countries’ relations.

A similar draft to the resolution before Congress was pulled from the House floor in October 2000 following an intervention by then president Bill Clinton.

ADL=Armenian Defamation League

Reading Abe Foxman’s newest genius at the Jerusalem Post, where he basically says he used the G-word for Jewish unity, I wondered if his new stance is not more dangerous than his previous absolute denial of the Armenian Genocide.

What brought laugh to my face, though, was a single-sentenced comment by a Texas reader of the Jerusalem Post, saying, ADL means “Armenian Defamation League.”

Link: http://blogcentral.jpost.com/index.php?cat_id=7&blog_id=76&blog_post_id=1489

Anti-Semitism, Zionism and the Armenian Genocide

To what extent the Armenian Genocide has “benefited” Zionism is a question often asked in these days. But “contributions” such as the claim that Jews have carried out the Armenian Genocide are clrearly anti-Semitic.

And what troubles me is when a respected website such as www.GenocideEvents.com is sending me an e-mail announcing that “HISTORIAN CHRISTOPHER JON BJERKNESS [WILL] SPEAK IN AN UNPRECEDENTED PUBLIC LECTURE, ON WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 8, 2007, ON THE TOPIC OF ‘WHO WERE THE YOUNG TURKS, THEIR MOTIVES AND THEIR ETHNIC ORIGINS.'”

Christopher Jon Bjerkness is the self-proclaimed historian from http://jewishracism.com/ whose latest book’s title speaks for itself, “The Jewish Genocide of Christian Armenians.” So of course the idiot was going to speak in front of a small nationalist Armenian crowd in California that the Armenian Genocide was done by the Jews (what gives hope is the fact that this small crowd could not get the event happen at an Armenian venue and, instead, at the United Community Church in Glendale, California). And quite ironically, this anti-Semite’s book reminds me of a similar title by an anti-Armenianist, “THE NAZI-ARMENIAN GENOCIDE OF JEWS 1935–1945.”

And please. Don’t tell me I need to waste my time reading a 500-page book that tells me my people were cleansed out of their ancestral homeland by the Jews. The fact that some masterminds of the Armenian Genocide had Jewish heritage doesn’t prove much – there were masterminds who also had Assyrian and even Armenian blood. And, perhaps, some individual Jews have benefited from the Armenian Genocide by having some business competition eliminated, etc. But what does this have to do with the Armenian-Turkish conflict?

I assume most Armenians are, justly, outraged with many Turkish-Jews’ support of the Armenian Genocide denial. There is one like that at the Metro State College of Denver in Colorado, Robert Hasan. The guy is a Turkish Jew now teaching history at this college and an adamant denier of the Armenian Genocide.

Actualy I heard of Hasan from a senior Jewish friend of mine – he was reading literature on genocide at Barnes & Nobles when Hasan interrupted him, introduced himself and urged my friend to make sure to learn about the Genocide that ARMENIANS COMMITTED against the Turks!
Of course my friend was outraged and he is actually now doing as much awareness work for the Armenian Genocide as for the Jewish Holocaust.

Now take this case and make your judgement. Is Hasan a Zionist or a nationalist Turk with a permanent brain damage? I don’t care which one he is, but idiots like him don’t ignite anti-Semitism in me to declare that the Armenian Genocide was committed by the Jews that’s why Turkish Jews deny it! And yes, it is anti-Semitism to blame Jews for the Armenian Genocide. And not because Jews, as every other people, are not capable of a genocide (and in fact, according to the Old Tastement, they may have as well committed one long time ago) but ignoring the Pan-Turkist ideology that carried out the Armenian Genocide and blaming Zionism instead is very unintelligent.

Paradoxically, a select debils are taking advantage of Christopher Jon Bjerkness’ limited “acceptance” among some Armenian circles to misinterpret the Zionist charge in the Armenian Genocide to deny the Armenian Genocide in quite stupid ways. Barbara Lerner, for example, has contributed to National Review Online (http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=MDI2ZmMwMjJhNjMxZGNmZGVjOTc5MmQwMDY5OWY0ZmY=) with her “judgment time” by trying to defend professional deniers of the Armenian Genocide as victims of anti-Semitism:

“…[M]en like Guenter Lewy, Edward J. Erickson, Andrew Mango, Justin McCarthy, Stanford Shaw, Norman Stone, and Michael Gunter — are regularly compared to Holocaust deniers like David Irving and Ernst Zundel, and dismissed as ‘genocide deniers.’ On many blogs and websites, Armenians often accuse these scholars of being part of a Jewish and/or Zionist conspiracy, because Israel has always steadfastly rejected the genocide charge, as Turkey’s own Jewish citizens do.”

While otherwise consistent in providing links to references, Lerner, for some reason, fails to provide any links to any of the “many blogs and websites, [where] Armenians often accuse these scholars of being part of a Jewish and/or Zionist conspiracy.”

I have my own conspiracy theory about Ms. Lerner; she needs to get laid.

ADL/Foxman/Wiesel Cartoon

Original cartoon by Lucine Kasbarian

Chief Turkish Historian Under Fire for Racism

You thought he was a denier, but did you know he was also an urologist?

Turkey’s official chief historian Yusuf Halacoglu, who has made news at Blogian for his role in covering up the discovery and the destruction of a possible Armenian Genocide mass grave, is under fire now for what many in Turkey see as racist comments against both Armenians and Kurds.

Photo: Halacoglu

Halacoglu, the head of the governmental Turkish Historical Society, has now ridiculed himself by proclaiming at a conference that there are no Kurds in Turkey: “Kurds are converted Turkmen and Kurdish Alevis are converted Armenians.” (Halacoglu is quoted as saying in the Turkish Daily News)

Apparently, after going through the penises of PKK (a militant Kurdish group deemed as terrorist by the West) members, Halacoglu has once again discovered there has been no Armenian Genocide. He is quoted in the Turkish press as saying, “For example when some PKK members are arrested it becomes apparent that they are not circumcised.”

If a Kurd is not circumcised then he must be Armenian, thinks Halacoglu. If there are so many covert Armenians in Turkey then there has been no Armenian Genocide, thinks – or should I say hallucinates – Halacoglu. I wonder what Halacoglu could find out by looking at my penis.

It is difficult to say what is the most shocking aspect about Halacoglu’s new hallucination – denying the Kurdish identity, propagating conspiracy theories about Armenians, denying the Armenian Genocide or trying to even more dehumanize Kurds by calling them Armenians? 

Kenan Ercel, a native of Turkey now at the Economics Department at the University of Massachusetts, says that the motivations behind Halacoglu’s statements are ignored.

There is much talk and outcry around Halacoglu’s latest statements but
what gets surprisingly little attention in the midst of all the hubbub is
the motivation behind those statements, which is not so much to deny Kurds
a separate ethnic identity (he already backpedaled on that) but to
downplay the scale of the 1915 deportations. As Halacoglu stated in a TV interview yesterday (on SkyTurk), if it can be shown that hundreds of thousands of Armenians who were believed to have disappeared from Anatolia were actually still there under the guise of a different ethnicity (Alevi Kurds), then it can be proven that the deportations were no where near as widespread as they are claimed to be. In the said interview he argued that if this hidden population was accounted for, the number of Armenians living in Turkey as of 1920 would turn out to be 1.3 million! Hence, not only was there no genocide, but even the “tehcir” was very limited in scope.

As to how such a sizeable Christian population managed to meld in
(almost en masse) with a Muslim sect without being noticed by the CUP authorities and their collaborators, I’m sure Halacoglu has other fairy tales to tell.

Foxman in Fire

graphic by HragVartanian.com

By this point perhaps most of you know about the Anti-Defamation League affair and Armenian Genocide denial that has appeared in the international media.

While you can review information (photos, videos) on the affair and get updated with the developments through www.NoPlaceForDenial.com, a website founded by Armenian-American activists, you can sign a petition at www.FireFoxman.com, a website established by Jewish-American activists.

Calls to Fire ADL Chief for Holocaust Denial

A senior editor at Jewcy is calling for the firing of Abraham Foxman, the chief of the Anti-Defamation League who has angered many Jews for denying the Armenian Genocide. 

 

Foxman‘s statement is in every way that matters equivalent to Mahmoud Ahmadinejad’s claim that he takes no position on the historicity of the Jewish Holocaust, but only hopes to see the matter resolved by dispassionate study. Throughout the Congressional saga surrounding the resolutions, virtually no one other than Turkish lobbyists had explained their opposition by challenging the nearly undisputed consensus among historians that a genocide did indeed take place.

It is a scandal of unprecedented proportion when one of the most prominent figures in our community, a man who claims to speak on our behalf, publicly challenges the historicity of another community’s genocide. Foxman’s ADL no longer represents the interests of the Jewish community.

The article has already encouraged a call by The New York Times Magazine writer and Huffington Post blogger Mark Oppenheimer to fire Foxman:

There are so many reasons to hate Abraham Foxman, the executive director of the once-proud Anti-Defamation League, but surely the best reason has to be his collusion with the Turkish government to perpetuate denial of its genocide against Armenians nearly 100 years ago. The Israeli government has long been part of this historical fudge, but at least it has the excuse — however meager — of Realpolitik: Bush goes boating with Putin, Israel dallies with genocide-denying Turks, China and Somalia do their petro-dance…and so it goes. But for a non-profit like the ADL, which in fact has done important work to combat not just anti-Semitism but other forms of ethnocentrism and racism, to shill for Holocaust-deniers (yes, the Armenian genocide can fairly be called a Holocaust) is inexcusable. He should be fired.

Nationalist Turkish Newspaper Reports on Racist Cartoonist

Today’s Hürriyet, a nationalist Turkish newspaper, reports on the “outing” of Mr. Murad “Holdwater” Gümen, the son of cartoonist Sururi Gümen. “Holdwater” is the webmaster of TallArmenianTale.com, a website that hatefully denies the Armenian Genocide by the Ottoman Turks.

Self-portrait of “Holdwater’s” cartoonist father

The story doesn’t mention, however, that Sururi Gümen was Hürriyet’s own editorial cartoonist before emigrating to the United States. “For fifty years, Sururi was undoubtedly the leading cartoonist in Turkey,” says Serüven, the Turkish magazine of comic-book art. [Sururi, Ellili yıların başında Türkiye’nin tartışmasız en iyi çizeriydi.]

Nationalist Hürriyet’s USA edition has devoted its front page article to “Holdwater” and the revealing of his identity. The full story inside features a screen shot from this blog.

One doesn’t really need to know Turkish to understand these articles.

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