Enough of the Racism, Mr. Petrosyan!
Image: Former Armenian president and opposition leader Levon Ter-Petrosyan greets supporters during a rally in central Yerevan, June 20, 2008. This is the first mass opposition rally since March 1 violent clashes with government forces when several people were killed. REUTERS/Photolure/Hayk Badalyan
While they are not the only one, Armenia’s opposition in its new protests continues to polarize the society in the smallest ex-Soviet republic by making racist statements about the current government.
According to a transcript posted on an opposition website , former president and opposition Levon-Ter Petrosyan called Armenia’s current administration a “Tatar-Mongolian” regime, a euphemism for “invading Turks,” just seconds into his speech on Friday, June 20, 2008.
By calling Armenia’s leaders “Tatar-Mongols,” Petrosyan is not only insulting his own nation, the fight for Nagorno-Karabakh and Armenia’s society, but also millions of people around the world who have Turkic origin. The worst thing is that this kind of racism doesn’t turn the thousand protesters off. So is Levon just a racist himself or is he catering a racist audience?
Bitter, oppressed and poor people often find scapegoats. But how long are we going to tolerate this kind of racism? What right do we have to mock Azerbaijan – where the word Armenian is purposely spelled with a lower-case “a” and condemn its institutionalized racism – when our own “leaders” accuse each other of being a Turk?
armen on 22 Jun 2008 at 2:03 am #
very good commentary! Many have realized long ago Levon to be of despicable character, but what is shocking is that there remains a sizable minority who foolishly follows him. This just goes to show you the sad state of a portion of our society, who’s impatience with the growth of this new country somehow causes them to an extreme and damaging position.
AH on 22 Jun 2008 at 6:02 pm #
I don’t think that the minority is all that sizable. There are a few thousand devout followers (after all, he was the 1st president, and many enjoyed life of graft etc). Most of the rest are either so fed up with the current (and/or previous) authorities that they would rather bring in the devil if just to “show ’em” that they can be brought down. Then there are the non-negligible few that just like a good ole demonstration, regardless of by whom and for what.
Having said all that, I agree – enough of the racism, hatred, and negativity. Levon, you had your time, you plundered, you encouraged emigration, you did what you could do and left in embarrassment. Time to move on.
Hayaser on 22 Jun 2008 at 7:03 pm #
LTP (JEWtp) = zionist jew, working for turGAY & EVILSrael.
he is nothing Armenian, his ancestors are not and never have been Armenian. same thing applies to kochar/sargs regime, both leaders are aghbanci, their ancestores are from northeastern azerGAYjan who migrated to Artsakh region over hundreds of years and assimilated into Armeinan identity, but keep their true identities to themselves. no REAL TRUE GENUINE Hay would be and dare act the way these 3 evils demoniks are. no REAL TRUE GENUINE Hayaser would treat his/her own with such hate and evilness, no REAL TRUE GENUINE Hay would destroy his/her own HAYASTAN
LTP maybe a racist, but so is kochar/sargs GAY.g.b. regime
both of these doush bags are high school bullies in competition with each other and showing it out in public trying to use/maniputlate the ppl of my Hayastan to help destroy each party. it doesnt get more plain & simplier than this explination !
Blogian on 22 Jun 2008 at 7:10 pm #
Hayaser, you don’t get the point, do you? What makes you an Armenian and doesn’t make LTP one? Who are you to say who is Armenian who is not? The reason that we have LTP in politics is because we have too many people like you. SHAME ON YOU. De-nationalist yourself and stop the nonsense racism and homophobia.
Pat on 22 Jun 2008 at 7:30 pm #
this man is just so funny …he is a clown …Dance for me Levon jan ..DANCE DANCE THE NIGHT AWAY
Aron D on 22 Jun 2008 at 8:03 pm #
I agree with Blogian on one point. Stop name calling – Hayaser.
As far as the true ancestory of Levon, kochairan, and serz is concerned, it is an open topic of research, and we ought to find out their origins – nothing is wrong with that. As you now, Armenians were scattered all over the middle east central Asia, so who can say he is 100% Armenian? We have been rulled and mingled with foreigners(Turks, Arabs, Mongloilans, Pesians and many others) for hundreds of years.
No Name Calling please, let us be civilized.
Thanks Blogian.
Onnik Krikorian on 22 Jun 2008 at 8:06 pm #
Blogian, I second your comment in response to Hayaser. It’s quite astounding that such anyone would say anything like that when the point of the post was a reaction to such attitudes.
I’d personally like to see some reasoned discussion and debate from both government and radical opposition supporters instead of the low quality rhetoric we actually get.
Aron D on 22 Jun 2008 at 8:06 pm #
No Just Resolution Due to Judge’s Actions
Ararat Davtyan June 16, 2008
In 2003 Zareh Berberian, a citizen of Syria, sold his home in Aleppo and moved to Armenia withy the hope of permanently residing here. However, things didn’t exactly turn out the way he planned. Zareh became the unfortunate victim of a scam in which, he states, Judge Gagik Khandanyan played an active role.
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“While looking for an apartment in 2005 I happened to meet Emma Ghazaryan who suggested that I buy the one room apartment belonging to her mother, Sirush Babasyan. Emma told me that the two of them had purchased the flat from a woman called Azniv Grigoryan in 1997 but for certain reasons still hadn’t gotten around to registering the property officially. Thus, she requested that I wait a bit until the title was properly transferred over to them by the courts.” recounts Zareh.
On June 7, 2005, the Shengavit Court of First Instance, Judge Gagik Khandanyan presiding, recognized the ownership title of Sirush Babasyan regarding the apartment in question.
Zareh recounts, “Just to be on the safe side I met with Judge Khandanyan who assured me that all the documentation was in order and legal and that his decision of June 7th, which would take effect in 15 days, would set everything to rights and that there was nothing to worry about.”
Days later, On June 29th, with a Power of Attorney signed by her mother, Emma Ghazaryan sold the apartment located at #44/4 Tzeretel Street to Zareh for $11,500.
“In the course of one month I made several payments amounting to $10,700. We had agreed that I should pay the remaining $800 towards the apartment’s communal services and other fees after these amounts had been finalized.” Recounts Zareh and notes that he only obtained a receipt for $7,500 in payments from Ghazaryan because, “When I made that $3,200 payment the purchase contract had already been drawn up and signed and I didn’t think that I had any further reason to be over cautious.”
A short time later Zareh was informed that Emma Ghazaryan had lodged a claim against him in court.
Officiating at the hearing would be none other than Judge G. Khandanyan who sustained the claim that Zareh had only paid a total of $7,500 to Ghazaryan towards the apartment. Given that, in the eyes of the court, the financial obligations of the contract weren’t met in a timely and full fashion, the Judge ruled in favor of the plaintiff and stripped Zareh of any ownership rights to the apartment he might have obtained heretofore.
“What really incredulous is even though Judge Khandanyan himself certified that I had made payments of $7,500 there was nothing in his decision regarding the return of that sum to me.” states Zareh.
Even before Zareh had a chance to appeal the decision the apartment’s actual legal owner, Sargis Grigoryan, arrived in Armenia from Belgium. Mr. Grigoryan, it turns out, inherited the apartment from his aunt, Azniv Grigoryan, back in 1990.
It also turns out that the buy and sell contract, registered and notarized in 1997, between Azniv Grigoryan and Sirush Babasyan was actually forged by none other than the latter’s daughter, Emma Ghazaryan. What’s even more perplexing is that Judge Khandanyan seemingly failed to notice the glaring falsifications in said document.
Twice charged with embezzlement, a criminal case was brought against E. Ghazaryan. The defendant accepted all the charges levied against her.
On July 31, 2006, the Shengavit Court of First Instance found Ghazaryan guilty and sentenced her to six years. During the court proceeding it was also established that Zareh was the defendant and that he actually made payments of $10,700 towards the apartment, not $7,500. Judge Gagik Poghosyan ruled that this amount should be recovered in favor of Zareh. However, this part of the court’s decision has remained on paper only given that the guilty party, Emma Ghazaryan, has no assets registered in her name.
“Emma undertook this fraud with the conniving consent of Judge Khandanyan and handed a portion of the money she swindled from me to him. This entire scam couldn’t have been carried out without this judge turning a blind eye to the obvious falsifications involved.” Says Zareh and notes that it is Judge Khandanyan who personally must make restitution for the losses he’s incurred.
Along these lines Zareh has sent off numerous petitions and protest letters to the President of Armenia, the Minister of Justice and the General Prosecutor – all to no avail. In the meantime the Council of Justice has refused to begin disciplinary proceedings against Judge Khandanyan.
Along with his wife and three month old daughter, Zareh presently resides in a rented apartment. He has already decided to leave Armenia. “It’s not possible to come to terms with life here. Even the judges are guilty of gross violations but they go unpunished. Go complain to whomever you like…there’s no one who gives a damn.” says Zareh.
Mikayel (2008-06-19 13:18)
Another sad story that I wish did not happem. Armenians in Armenia are in a bad situation and some of them will try to take advantage of any outsider that comes to relocate in Armenia. This does not mean that everyone is the same, there are honest and trustworthy people in Armenia. The Armenians in Armenia are hurting themsleves. I feel if the guilty parties were punished accordingly then more Armenians from outside would go to Armenia and share their talent and skills. Armenians from Syria are great mechanics and jewelers and have many other talents that would contribute to Armenian business and culture.
mahmouzian (2008-06-19 11:41)
volunteer.give us thoses three additional crooks .maybe we just should publish a list of mayors. governer .teachers. taxes employees. policment .custom employees etc etc and the rest i forgot
spiyrkahai (2008-06-17 14:11)
Haistane aprely teh che!
Mher (2008-06-17 13:09)
Sadly, Armenians will not flood to Armenia whoever the President is!! It would be morally arong for Armenians on the outside to wait for normalcy to be established before contemplating a move to Armenia.Let them come now and struggle to make things right.
mike (2008-06-17 04:47)
why would you want to go back to Armenia if Kocharian was president…and now Serj. Common sense tells me Armenians will flood to Armenia after Serj’s rule.
A Volunteer (2008-06-17 01:37)
I can name three additional corrupt judges from the Shenkavit district, and I can assure you, they are all on someone’s payroll…in Armenia, corruption rules…
nazarian on 23 Jun 2008 at 6:57 am #
I want to know why describing the behavior of the Kocharian-Sargsian duo as Tatar-Monghol regime is racist?
What’s a tatar-Mongholian regime anyway? In one of his earlier speeches Levon Ter-Petrosian explained what a Tatar-Mongholian system was. It was basically a feudal system with a little bit of violence sprinkled on top as the hierarchy is enforced through violent means (like the October 27, Teci Krug, March 1, etc.).
I guess you could call the Kocharian-Sargsian regime a ‘feudal regime with a little more violence’ but ‘Monghol-Tatar system’ is a catchier term.
BTW, I am sure the modern day Monghols are way over the Chengiz Khan era in order to be insulted by the RK-SS system being classified like that.
nazarian on 23 Jun 2008 at 7:01 am #
Also, the Tatar-Monghol system was mentioned twice in a very long speech. Focusing on two words out of a thousand or so doesn’t reflect what the speech was about.
hikee on 23 Jun 2008 at 7:08 am #
good evening
my dear english speaking patriot Armenians…
i just dare to react to the post as i saw you calling LTP a racist,..
i don’t really think that he meant to hurt neither mongols nor even “tyurks” .. he rather talks about “political” system, or the way of governing, as one that is to be avoided. its not that i THINK.. That is what he said on Friday and that is what said months ago. If i had any position to defend turkish dignity on this blog i would only ask you to stay accurate in your broken-off quotations.
regards
ps. մի հարց Բլոգյանին … դուք ընտռւթյուններին մասնակցել էք ?
Blogian on 23 Jun 2008 at 7:23 am #
Nazarian, you know better than what you are actually saying. You know very well that more than often “Tatar-Mongol” is a reference in Armenia to non-native Turks, and you know very well that LTP was alluding to the racist sentiment that Kocharyan and everyone else from Nagorno-Karabakh is a Turk (Azeri). I can see why calling a regime Tatar-Mongolian in another situation might be a reference to an oppressive, racist regime. But given the fact that the current administration has been directly called a Turkish one – with undeniable reference to roots in Nagorno-Karabakh – the usage of “Tatar-Mongolian regime” is a racist statement and caters the anti-Nagorno-Karabakh sentiment among a number of bitter people in Armenia.
If you have so much trust in LTP, I’d suggest you’d do him a favor by actually condemnding his racist remarks and inviting us (which you somewhat do) to look beyond tha mistake and look at the larger picture. Otherwise, by defending an undeniable act of hatred you sound like a fanatic believer who is ready to do antyhing to defend his or her faith.
Blogian on 23 Jun 2008 at 7:34 am #
good evening hikee, the point is not entirely about offending Turks. The point is more about promoting further hatred in the aftermath of a recent unrest that left ten people dead. The point is that LTP is a polarizing person investing on bitter people’s outrage to gain political power. The point is that LTP reserves himself the right to define who is Armenian who is Tatar-Mongolian. The point is that he knows very well what his message means. This is an irresponsible act. Armenia deserves a better opposition, a better government and a better political system. But maybe we, as individuals, should start by changing ourselves?
ps. Ընտրություններին չեմ մասնակցել:
Shiva on 23 Jun 2008 at 9:20 am #
Is it racist? Read on…
In my speech at the October 26 rally, I described the nature of the economic system established by the Kocharyan-Serzh regime, and noted that it has nothing to do with either socialism, or feudalism, or the nominally-declared capitalism, but instead, resembles a Tartar-Mongol khanate type system. Let me make clear: this is not an ethnic characterization, but a purely scientific concept, thoroughly researched and developed by world-renowned historians, particularly Russian Orientalists Barthold, Vladimirtsov, Grekov, and Yakubovski.
What is the nature of this Tartar-Mongol khanate? As we know, in the 13th and 14th centuries, the Mongols, under the leadership of Genghis Khan and his successors, established the largest land empire in history. At the basis of their ideology of the conquest of Heaven and Earth was the principle of “One God in Heaven and one Great Khan on Earth.” The Mongols thus believed that their power was God-given, and that they were chosen by the Almighty to be the master of the whole world. Other nations had to abide by their rules, and if they resisted, were subject to annihilation. This conceptual framework left no space for not only enemy states, but also allied ones, since alliance implied equality.
http://hetq.am/eng/politics/7401/
Onnik Krikorian on 23 Jun 2008 at 9:57 am #
I’d also agree that Ter-Petrossian needs to change his rhetoric. Even if he didn’t mean it, he knows full well how people will interpret it.
Indeed, I’ve been on Northern Avenue when his supporters and cursed police to their face as “Kharabaghtsi” when actually, they were Armenian police.
The fact is that Ter-Petrossian’s speeches are carefully designed to play on those existing hatreds and divisions within Armenian society and exploit them.
He’s skilled at doing so, it’s true. However, it’s not to be welcomed. Instead, I’d like something new from him and not the same old stuff he and other opposition leaders have spouted since 2003.
The Karabakh thing has been a key campaigning “issue” for them (perhaps the only one) and it’s been used time and time again, including by Ter-Petrossian.
From Mongol-Tartars to bringing “them” to “here.”
Enough is enough and it’s in his interest to change the rhetoric because campaigning like this isn’t going to work with many people forced to choose Serge over him because of it as well as a large group of people in between who want a leader with a vision to follow.
Still, I will say that his return and rhetoric has finally led us to consider and discuss such issues. However, the price was very high indeed.
nazarian on 23 Jun 2008 at 4:43 pm #
Blogian, I have never heard the Turks being called Tatar-Monghol.
The Turks are called what they are – Turks. The Azeris are called Turks as well. In folklore, an excessively violent person is called a Turk, too.
None of the above are called Tatar-Monghol. I don’t know who you have met in Armenia that has called them that.
It would be good to research a little to see what is meant by ‘Tatar-Monghol regime’ before having thinking that it is a racist slur and getting your feelings hurt.
Blogian on 23 Jun 2008 at 5:43 pm #
Shiva, the fact is that most protesters interpret LTP’s “Tatar-Mongol” phrase as a reference to “Turks Serzh and Robert from Azerbaijan.” I am very sad that you are defending LTP because you know very well that that is the case. LTP is a very intelligent person and will do the brightest linguistic exercise to argue that he is not racist and doesn’t promote hatred against Armenians from Nagorno-Karabakh. But again, he knows very well what he is doing. While “Tatar-Mongol” reference for LTP may personally mean an oppressive feudal system, he knows what exactly “Tatar-Mongol” means to ordinary bitter Armenians. You know very well, Shiva, that LTP says “Tatar-Mongol” to suggest that the current administration members are not real Armenians.
I wonder whether so many of you got angry because you are ardent LTP supporters or because hating Turks shouldn’t be considered racism.
Hayaser on 23 Jun 2008 at 8:08 pm #
@Blogian
What makes ME an Armenian and doesn’t make LTP one? Who AM I to say who is Armenian who is not?
to answer your questions, I shall repost part of my original comment……
no REAL TRUE GENUINE Hay would be and dare act the way these 3 evils demoniks are. no REAL TRUE GENUINE Hayaser would treat his/her own ppl & homeland with such hate and evilness, no REAL TRUE GENUINE Hay would destroy his/her own HAYASTAN
you dont like the fact that i know the truth about LTP and kochar/sargs, thats why you have to denounce my comment. its not about racism, dont know why trying to spin it that way. if i put the words “i hate all niggers” than you can bash on me all you for want for being racist, but this is not about racism, this is about DIRECT THREAT TO ARMENIA. these 3 powerful evils are NOT anything Haykakan this we know for sure, i know it as i know my own name, i know it as i know the sky is blue, i know & understand Armenism better than any other of my fellow Hays. some ppl study law, medical, engineering, i study Armenism (Armenology). JEWtp is not Hay, he is indeed a jew pretending to be Hay, he married a zionist jew, he practices zionism, he is loyal to zionism/jewishness, he has been seen wearing a jew star on his neck, he is backed by EVILSrael & JEWmerica, and he is in bed with turGAY/azerGAY gov’t powerfuls. this cannot be denied, this we know for fact. and as for the kochar/sargs regime we know for fact GAY.g.b. help instigate march 1 events, i wouldn’t be surprised if JEWtp & kochar/sargs are working together behind the scenes. it is strongly speculated that could be the most logical explination of them all
no Armenian leader would turn off electricity, water, gas, of his/her own country and denounce/ban the 1st longest lasting Armenian freedom political party (ARF) to be removed out of Hayastan. oh and on top of that lets not forget no REAL TRUE GENUINE Armenian would make comments that if the ppl of Hayastan want to survive, they should migrate out of Hayastan. basically JEWtp & turGAYS plan to remove Hays out of Hayastan by persuasian and trickery so turGAY/azerGAY can invade to take over the remaining lands which their ancestors failed to achieve. its not a big secret who & what JEWpt is about. and its not a secret what kochar/sargs are about either, it doesnt take a genius to figure out these things
oh and my comment bout ARF doesn’t make me anything political, but wanting to destroy a revoultionary org that helped free Armenians and keep a piece of Haykakan lands for Hays to be able to have is an act of evilness/betrayel/traitorism. I am for Haykakan unity, however JEWtp is a DIRECT THREAT to that unity & sovereignty of Hayastan, so therefore i must protest against anyone who is against that unity & sovereignty…….plain & simple !
so if that makes me a racist, then bash me as a racist….inch asem inch grem. you might as well refer to the other Hays who HATE on JEWtp & kochar/sargs for being like minded
AH on 23 Jun 2008 at 10:14 pm #
The Tatar-Mongol rhetoric is aimed at appealing to the base subconscious of the people. It is worse than just racism. Its willful intent is to divide and polarize society against itself.
Don’t be apologists for Levon. When convenient, he is a well read genius, when convenient, he is a naive innocent. He is the chief architect of the mess we live in today in Armenia, he is the chief architect of the graft, corruption and state-crime. Let’s not be apologists for him, please. If you defend him, fine. You can defend the racist trash he spewed and continues to spew. You can have him and Vano and Grzo and Jhangiryan and Lady Hakob and Shamiram and all the other filth. As bad as thing are now, you can never convince me to bring in yesterday’s trash back into the house. That will not clean anything up.
R on 24 Jun 2008 at 3:47 am #
Hayaser is anti-semitic and homophobic. Blogian, as much as free speech is important, hate speech should not be tolerated and I think you should delete Hayaser’s comments.
It is clear that many people still dont get it. It is unacceptable in the civilized world to demonize someone on the basis of ethnicity, religion, race, sexual preference, etc. Likewise for Levon Ter Petrosyan – whatever his intentions were it is unacceptable to use the words ‘Tatar-Mongol’ as an insult.
Blogian on 24 Jun 2008 at 6:30 am #
R, I agree that Hayaser’s comments are quite unhealthy. But I think I will allienate him/her even more by deleting her/his comments (and “confirm” his conspiracy theories). I think by allowing him/her to stay part of the discussion s/he may reconsider racism and homophobia. I want him to know that I consider him Armenian, and I don’t exclude racist Armenians from the list of Armenians.
The ‘Tatar-Mongol’ is an insult; and first of all to all Armenians.
Hayaser on 24 Jun 2008 at 6:43 pm #
@Blogian & R….
you can hate on me all you want, you can bash me for being anti semetic all you want, i hate anything & everything EVIL, so if i hate my enemies, does that make me a racist ? i can care less that a JEW is a JEW, i can careless that NIGGER is a NIGGER, but what i do care is if a JEW and/or a NIGGER is scum filthy evil who ruin this planet. all of you try to paint me as a racist, if hating EVIL is being racist, than please by all means PAINT me as a “racist”. the Greeks during Byzantium empire did some acts of evil against HIN HAYASTAN, should i hate Greeks ? am i a racist against the Greeks now ? No, i love & respect our brother Greeks because they are allies of Hays for long time (on/off they were enemies for short lived skirmishes here & there) hating a group of ppl does make someone racist, however…hating on group of doush bag EVIL asswipes who RUIN the world, who are CANCER in humanoid form is NOTHING racist. all of you who hate on the devil for being the devil, should i paint all of you as RACIST against satanism ? no i dont, you hate the devil than you hate the devil, nothing racist about it. i dont hate on JEWS for music, culture, language, wearing yamaka mamakas, that would be racist in my book as anyone would agree, but i hate on JEWS and any other scum humanoid form cancers for WHAT they are, not WHO they are. hating on group of ppl for WHO they are is what makes someone racist, hating on group of ppl for WHAT they are does not
oh btw: all of you who hate on me for speaking truth, this is typical of anyone/ppl who doesnt like the truth to be exposed, and if you hate on me for speaking truth, than i should label you as racist too right ? i mean thats what you’re doing to me !!!!!!!!
also…I AM NOT HOMOPHOBIC anything, i am nothing anti GAY, i can careless if someone is GAY or NOT, that is his/her own personal buisness. i dont have any comment and/or negativity towards any GAY/HOMO ppl. in fact i find that if its NOT for GAYS in this world today, we wouldn’t have such style, modern, and classy fashion and among other fashionable easy on the eyes designs of the world. GAYS make a huge contribution to this world with their talents & skills (non sexual performance of course) and i welcome the GAYS insights and ideas of how to make the world a BETTER more MODERN looking place for all of us.
NOTE: just because one defends gay and openly admits NOT being HOMOPHOBE does NOT make one gay. I am very open liberal person, if i am GAY i would have no qualms to admit to it. However…I LOVE our beautiful wonderful gorgeous sexy HAY AXCHIKS who i adore more than any other females on this planet
@Blogian: you can DELETE my comments all you want, it wouldn’t bother me for a second. i dont HATE on someone for not wanting to READ the truth about the world, unlike you of course clearly showing HATE on me for that. than i label you a RACIST against your own ppl
Hayaser on 24 Jun 2008 at 6:44 pm #
@Blogian & R….
you can hate on me all you want, you can bash me for being anti semetic all you want, i hate anything & everything EVIL, so if i hate my enemies, does that make me a racist ? i can care less that a JEW is a JEW, i can careless that NIGGER is a NIGGER, but what i do care is if a JEW and/or a NIGGER is scum filthy evil who ruin this planet. all of you try to paint me as a racist, if hating EVIL is being racist, than please by all means PAINT me as a “racist”. the Greeks during Byzantium empire did some acts of evil against HIN HAYASTAN, should i hate Greeks ? am i a racist against the Greeks now ? No, i love & respect our brother Greeks because they are allies of Hays for long time (on/off they were enemies for short lived skirmishes here & there) hating a group of ppl does make someone racist, however…hating on group of doush bag EVIL asswipes who RUIN the world, who are CANCER in humanoid form is NOTHING racist. all of you who hate on the devil for being the devil, should i paint all of you as RACIST against satanism ? no i dont, you hate the devil than you hate the devil, nothing racist about it. i dont hate on JEWS for music, culture, language, wearing yamaka mamakas, that would be racist in my book as anyone would agree, but i hate on JEWS and any other scum humanoid form cancers for WHAT they are, not WHO they are. hating on group of ppl for WHO they are is what makes someone racist, hating on group of ppl for WHAT they are does not
oh btw: all of you who hate on me for speaking truth, this is typical of anyone/ppl who doesnt like the truth to be exposed, and if you hate on me for speaking truth, than i should label you as racist too right ? i mean thats what you’re doing to me !!!!!!!!
also…I AM NOT HOMOPHOBIC anything, i am nothing anti GAY, i can careless if someone is GAY or NOT, that is his/her own personal buisness. i dont have any comment and/or negativity towards any GAY/HOMO ppl. in fact i find that if its NOT for GAYS in this world today, we wouldn’t have such style, modern, and classy fashion and among other fashionable easy on the eyes designs of the world. GAYS make a huge contribution to this world with their talents & skills (non sexual performance of course) and i welcome the GAYS insights and ideas of how to make the world a BETTER more MODERN looking place for all of us.
NOTE: just because one defends gay and openly admits NOT being HOMOPHOBE does NOT make one gay. I am very open liberal person, if i am GAY i would have no qualms to admit to it. However…I LOVE our beautiful wonderful gorgeous sexy HAY AXCHIKS who i adore more than any other females on this planet
@Blogian: you can DELETE my comments all you want, it wouldn’t bother me for a second. i dont HATE on someone for not wanting to READ the truth about the world, unlike you of course you clearly shows HATING on me for that. than i label you a RACIST against your own ppl
Raffi Kojian on 05 Jul 2008 at 9:17 am #
There’s also the somewhat funny (and sad) point to be made that even if the comment LTP made was about a political system that “was basically a feudal system with a little bit of violence sprinkled on top as the hierarchy is enforced through violent means”, then he himself was the first to fit the description in post-independent Armenia…