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		<title>By: Raffi</title>
		<link>http://blogian.hayastan.com/2008/10/04/sarah-palin-on-armenia/comment-page-1/#comment-1536</link>
		<dc:creator>Raffi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 17:20:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see you&#039;re still ashamed, and have so many more issues than I had guessed.  It also turns out, not surprisingly, that you are part of the extended Bolsa-Hay clan who grew up under severe psychological burdens.  You also see Turkey&#039;s admission of guilt as impossible, whereas most see it as inevitable.  You also use backwards logic like saying recognition will not bring back the dead, we should look forward.  Well sure, so why prosecute ANY crimes at all?  Why even have a judicial system for that matter, or laws?  What&#039;s done is done!  Forget about it.  Look to the anarchy of the future without laws instead!

No.  Sorry.  You have introduces so many topics, so many illogical arguments, I won&#039;t sit here and debate them one by one.  If you don&#039;t see how it is important for the leader of the worlds &quot;single superpower&quot; to know how to email, and see how it affects the nation and the world, and liken that to a 6 year old not being qualified, how can I take you seriously?  If you blame the liberal media - while completely ignoring their highly competitive conservative media - for doing more damage than the national and international catastrophe of the Iraq war, what can I explain to you?  If you think that you should follow your president once he is elected - no matter what - then I wonder how nicely you would have toed the line if your president were Hitler, Saddam, Rafsanjani, or Daniel Ortega - all of whom were elected, some of them democratically!  I especially wonder how you would follow Obama :-)

But, speaking of Obama not being qualified to be president (without laughing too hard at Palin, who would have an excellent chance to become president if she were elected VP), McCain, actually is NOT qualified LEGALLY to be president, a fact that the &quot;liberal media&quot; hasn&#039;t even touched.  He was NOT a &quot;natural born American citizen&quot;.  He was given citizenship years later by an act of congress for those born to Americans oversees.

There is so much more I can write, every line of your comment makes my head spin...  unfortunately I doubt you&#039;re listening, so I&#039;m going to just save us all some time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see you&#8217;re still ashamed, and have so many more issues than I had guessed.  It also turns out, not surprisingly, that you are part of the extended Bolsa-Hay clan who grew up under severe psychological burdens.  You also see Turkey&#8217;s admission of guilt as impossible, whereas most see it as inevitable.  You also use backwards logic like saying recognition will not bring back the dead, we should look forward.  Well sure, so why prosecute ANY crimes at all?  Why even have a judicial system for that matter, or laws?  What&#8217;s done is done!  Forget about it.  Look to the anarchy of the future without laws instead!</p>
<p>No.  Sorry.  You have introduces so many topics, so many illogical arguments, I won&#8217;t sit here and debate them one by one.  If you don&#8217;t see how it is important for the leader of the worlds &#8220;single superpower&#8221; to know how to email, and see how it affects the nation and the world, and liken that to a 6 year old not being qualified, how can I take you seriously?  If you blame the liberal media &#8211; while completely ignoring their highly competitive conservative media &#8211; for doing more damage than the national and international catastrophe of the Iraq war, what can I explain to you?  If you think that you should follow your president once he is elected &#8211; no matter what &#8211; then I wonder how nicely you would have toed the line if your president were Hitler, Saddam, Rafsanjani, or Daniel Ortega &#8211; all of whom were elected, some of them democratically!  I especially wonder how you would follow Obama <img src='http://blogian.hayastan.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>But, speaking of Obama not being qualified to be president (without laughing too hard at Palin, who would have an excellent chance to become president if she were elected VP), McCain, actually is NOT qualified LEGALLY to be president, a fact that the &#8220;liberal media&#8221; hasn&#8217;t even touched.  He was NOT a &#8220;natural born American citizen&#8221;.  He was given citizenship years later by an act of congress for those born to Americans oversees.</p>
<p>There is so much more I can write, every line of your comment makes my head spin&#8230;  unfortunately I doubt you&#8217;re listening, so I&#8217;m going to just save us all some time.</p>
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		<title>By: Ashamed</title>
		<link>http://blogian.hayastan.com/2008/10/04/sarah-palin-on-armenia/comment-page-1/#comment-1535</link>
		<dc:creator>Ashamed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 05:37:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Raffi, 

* No, I did not say voting for a Democrat is unAmerican. But Obama is not an FDR.

* The liberal media did more damage to America than Bush/Cheney, because the Liberals did not get their way in 2000 and 2004. Therefore, they swore they would derail the Bush Pesidency in any way they could. So they did.

Once the elections are over, we should all support our presidents no matter who wins. FDR and HST took us to war too, but the whole country got behind their presidents.

* You cannot compare the Genocide of the Armenians versus the Holocaust that the Jews went thru. Jews turned a desert land of Israel into one of the most advanced/richest per capita country in the area. The Armenians of Armenia haven&#039;t been able to do that, which is beside the point.

* Following the Genocide, the Armenians went to Syria, Armenia, mostly to France and the USA. Is it a coincidance that the Armenian-Americans did financially a lot better than the rest of them? But that is not the real issue too.

The Diaspora has been demanding your so called justice as long as I can remember. FDR, JFK, Jimmy Carter and the two terms of WJC presidencies did not get the Genocide recognized too. Soo, what did we do about it?

As a matter of fact, D-Rep. Dick Gephart and Bob Livingstone became the lobbiests to champion the Turk&#039;s claim that there was no Genocide while they were getting paid millions by the Turkish Embassy in D.C.

I suggest you might as well forget about Pelosi&#039;s pledge to the Armenians too, which had the life of a snow flake in an oven.

* I was a Democrat too until 1975, while I was young and inexperienced. Now I do not take these kinds of baits anymore, and I wished we all do.

You may not want folksy mavericks with melanomas and torture scars, and I am sorry to see that you don&#039;t know why McCain cannot type e-mails, as if that would qualify him to be the President. Hey , my six years old grand-niece knows how to type, but I am not going to push for her presidency. Well, at least not now.

* You also don&#039;t know much as to why Obama is not qualified to be the President either.

I would give you some links to find more about Obama, but I see that you want to close your mind to the real issues, and have decided to vote for Obama because he promised the recognition of the Genocide. Is that all?

You know what Raffi, recognition of Genocide still would not bring my uncle back, my aunt became a widow when she was 24, and their two daughters never knew what their highly educated father looked like, who was educated in Europe and learned five more languages, besides Armenian and Turkish.

When I left Turkey in 1950s, there were still close to 400 thousand Armenians there, now only 60 thousand or so are left.
A recognition of Genocide may be the end of them too, which will include my sister&#039;s big family. And that is one of the reason why I want to look forward to the future instead to the past. The Turks want their liberal historians to decide whether the Genocide occured or not instead of reading Ambassador Henry Morgenthau&#039;s archived articles and books.

Now I want to ask you, if we really want the Turk&#039;s acknowledgement of it or not. They will not !.. 

But you know and I know what happened to our people. Do we want another mini-Genocide? If so, be my guest, is all I can say.

Best regards,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Raffi, </p>
<p>* No, I did not say voting for a Democrat is unAmerican. But Obama is not an FDR.</p>
<p>* The liberal media did more damage to America than Bush/Cheney, because the Liberals did not get their way in 2000 and 2004. Therefore, they swore they would derail the Bush Pesidency in any way they could. So they did.</p>
<p>Once the elections are over, we should all support our presidents no matter who wins. FDR and HST took us to war too, but the whole country got behind their presidents.</p>
<p>* You cannot compare the Genocide of the Armenians versus the Holocaust that the Jews went thru. Jews turned a desert land of Israel into one of the most advanced/richest per capita country in the area. The Armenians of Armenia haven&#8217;t been able to do that, which is beside the point.</p>
<p>* Following the Genocide, the Armenians went to Syria, Armenia, mostly to France and the USA. Is it a coincidance that the Armenian-Americans did financially a lot better than the rest of them? But that is not the real issue too.</p>
<p>The Diaspora has been demanding your so called justice as long as I can remember. FDR, JFK, Jimmy Carter and the two terms of WJC presidencies did not get the Genocide recognized too. Soo, what did we do about it?</p>
<p>As a matter of fact, D-Rep. Dick Gephart and Bob Livingstone became the lobbiests to champion the Turk&#8217;s claim that there was no Genocide while they were getting paid millions by the Turkish Embassy in D.C.</p>
<p>I suggest you might as well forget about Pelosi&#8217;s pledge to the Armenians too, which had the life of a snow flake in an oven.</p>
<p>* I was a Democrat too until 1975, while I was young and inexperienced. Now I do not take these kinds of baits anymore, and I wished we all do.</p>
<p>You may not want folksy mavericks with melanomas and torture scars, and I am sorry to see that you don&#8217;t know why McCain cannot type e-mails, as if that would qualify him to be the President. Hey , my six years old grand-niece knows how to type, but I am not going to push for her presidency. Well, at least not now.</p>
<p>* You also don&#8217;t know much as to why Obama is not qualified to be the President either.</p>
<p>I would give you some links to find more about Obama, but I see that you want to close your mind to the real issues, and have decided to vote for Obama because he promised the recognition of the Genocide. Is that all?</p>
<p>You know what Raffi, recognition of Genocide still would not bring my uncle back, my aunt became a widow when she was 24, and their two daughters never knew what their highly educated father looked like, who was educated in Europe and learned five more languages, besides Armenian and Turkish.</p>
<p>When I left Turkey in 1950s, there were still close to 400 thousand Armenians there, now only 60 thousand or so are left.<br />
A recognition of Genocide may be the end of them too, which will include my sister&#8217;s big family. And that is one of the reason why I want to look forward to the future instead to the past. The Turks want their liberal historians to decide whether the Genocide occured or not instead of reading Ambassador Henry Morgenthau&#8217;s archived articles and books.</p>
<p>Now I want to ask you, if we really want the Turk&#8217;s acknowledgement of it or not. They will not !.. </p>
<p>But you know and I know what happened to our people. Do we want another mini-Genocide? If so, be my guest, is all I can say.</p>
<p>Best regards,</p>
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		<title>By: Raffi</title>
		<link>http://blogian.hayastan.com/2008/10/04/sarah-palin-on-armenia/comment-page-1/#comment-1534</link>
		<dc:creator>Raffi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 05:22:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>seriously? so now voting for a democrat is unamerican?  
wanting justice and recognition is stupid?  

Regarding the first charge, I ask you who on EARTH has done more damage to the USA than George W. Bush/Dick Cheney, and ask you what exactly Palins flirtation with the Alaska Independence Party means in relation to her great patriotism.

Regarding the second charge, I say, go tell it to the Jews.  When they&#039;re done washing your mouth out for telling them to do something so blasphemous (stupid) as to forget their past, you can come back here with a fresh perspective.

Stop being so ashamed, there&#039;s nothing to be ashamed of here.  Armenians wouldn&#039;t be here in the US like this if it weren&#039;t for the genocide, so Turkey can thank itself for the great job we do at reminding them that the reason there is a Diaspora demanding justice, is because they created it.

And when ANY American votes for McCain/Palin, they should have their head examined.  We don&#039;t need folksy mavericks with melanomas and psychological torture scars who either don&#039;t know how to use email, or use Yahoo mail so they can pursue hidden (illegal?) agendas.  We need intelligent, healthy, accomplished leaders who are not willing to do anything to get top office, and who have already stood up for Armenian causes again and again, long before ever having Armenian constituents, simply because Armenians are in the right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>seriously? so now voting for a democrat is unamerican?<br />
wanting justice and recognition is stupid?  </p>
<p>Regarding the first charge, I ask you who on EARTH has done more damage to the USA than George W. Bush/Dick Cheney, and ask you what exactly Palins flirtation with the Alaska Independence Party means in relation to her great patriotism.</p>
<p>Regarding the second charge, I say, go tell it to the Jews.  When they&#8217;re done washing your mouth out for telling them to do something so blasphemous (stupid) as to forget their past, you can come back here with a fresh perspective.</p>
<p>Stop being so ashamed, there&#8217;s nothing to be ashamed of here.  Armenians wouldn&#8217;t be here in the US like this if it weren&#8217;t for the genocide, so Turkey can thank itself for the great job we do at reminding them that the reason there is a Diaspora demanding justice, is because they created it.</p>
<p>And when ANY American votes for McCain/Palin, they should have their head examined.  We don&#8217;t need folksy mavericks with melanomas and psychological torture scars who either don&#8217;t know how to use email, or use Yahoo mail so they can pursue hidden (illegal?) agendas.  We need intelligent, healthy, accomplished leaders who are not willing to do anything to get top office, and who have already stood up for Armenian causes again and again, long before ever having Armenian constituents, simply because Armenians are in the right.</p>
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		<title>By: Ashamed</title>
		<link>http://blogian.hayastan.com/2008/10/04/sarah-palin-on-armenia/comment-page-1/#comment-1533</link>
		<dc:creator>Ashamed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 05:40:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really feel sorry for the Armenian -American community if their only criteria to vote for McCain/Palin ticket should be based on &quot;whether Palin knew the State of Armenia &quot; existed or not.

This is why the A-A community is always destined to be a loser. When the time was ripe, they should have pushed for the &quot;George Deukmedjian for President&quot; years ago, instead of now getting behind an obscure guy named Obama, who has so much negative baggage behind him.

Twenty years of a close relationship with Rev. Wright who condemned America, close association with Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan and another America hater, named Bill Ayers cannot be an Armenia lover with a declaration that he is going to push for the recognition of Genocide once he becomes President. Nancy Pelosi had promised that too long time ago. What happened to it? Why Armenians are so gullible is beyond me.

It is time Armenians should wean themselves from these empty promises, and start looking forward to the future instead of concentrating on the past. Past is past, let us look to the future.

Knowing that Armenians are talented and hard working people, they sure do not need the empty promises of the Democrats who love the existence of &quot;poor people&quot; so that they can be their champion, promising everything under the sun as if everything can be had freely from the government.

What happened to the freedom loving, proud, hard-working talented Armenian masses that immigrated to the U.S. after the Genocide in Turkey? Where are they? Are the ones who are Obama lovers started feeling to be a second class citizens that they have given up their grand parent&#039;s fight for the right thing to do, or will they reduce themselves to be beggars?

I didn&#039;t think so. Quo vadis Armenians?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really feel sorry for the Armenian -American community if their only criteria to vote for McCain/Palin ticket should be based on &#8220;whether Palin knew the State of Armenia &#8221; existed or not.</p>
<p>This is why the A-A community is always destined to be a loser. When the time was ripe, they should have pushed for the &#8220;George Deukmedjian for President&#8221; years ago, instead of now getting behind an obscure guy named Obama, who has so much negative baggage behind him.</p>
<p>Twenty years of a close relationship with Rev. Wright who condemned America, close association with Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan and another America hater, named Bill Ayers cannot be an Armenia lover with a declaration that he is going to push for the recognition of Genocide once he becomes President. Nancy Pelosi had promised that too long time ago. What happened to it? Why Armenians are so gullible is beyond me.</p>
<p>It is time Armenians should wean themselves from these empty promises, and start looking forward to the future instead of concentrating on the past. Past is past, let us look to the future.</p>
<p>Knowing that Armenians are talented and hard working people, they sure do not need the empty promises of the Democrats who love the existence of &#8220;poor people&#8221; so that they can be their champion, promising everything under the sun as if everything can be had freely from the government.</p>
<p>What happened to the freedom loving, proud, hard-working talented Armenian masses that immigrated to the U.S. after the Genocide in Turkey? Where are they? Are the ones who are Obama lovers started feeling to be a second class citizens that they have given up their grand parent&#8217;s fight for the right thing to do, or will they reduce themselves to be beggars?</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t think so. Quo vadis Armenians?</p>
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